Few rappers have created an album worthy of being listed among the top five in Hip-Hop history. Nas achieved this feat with his 1994 debut Illmatic, a pinnacle release that forever changed Hip-Hop culture.

The project was the topic of a recent argument between Charlamagne Tha God of Power 105.1’s The Breakfast Club and Vlad of VladTV, the latter of whom believes Illmatic is Nas’ only classic album.

See how their discussion played out below.